What is wellness?

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Sophie (00:01.511)

Welcome everyone. Welcome to the Kokorology podcast. I'm Sophie. I'm a storyteller and I try and get as much genius out of Sabin.

Sabin (00:10.758)

I am Sabin, I am a coach and I work a lot with Kokorology.

Sophie (00:17.567)

So today we're coming to you with a very big topic. So we're gonna have to try and keep this short. It's a big topic. What is wellness? Actually, this was my first conversation with you when we first met. We had a very long conversation and you expanded my mind around what wellness is. So let's keep it light, because everyone has a different take on what wellness is. And you actually reminded me

Sabin (00:29.118)

I'm ready.

That's right.

Sophie (00:47.931)

You reminded me why wellness is so important and what it encompasses. I'm gonna leave it up to you. The fact that it starts from the moment we're born, right until we die, even pretty much before we're born actually, while we're still in the belly of our mother. So, forget this, you know, it's an all life encompassing thing.

Sabin (01:06.818)

Yeah, yeah.

Sabin (01:12.362)

Yeah, it's like, it's something that you can't escape, but it's the one thing that we all try to escape. It's hilarious for me. Even if, it may even start at the conception phase, right? Like if your parents are well, and then they can conceive you naturally or with help. And so it starts well before you are conceived. That's for every single human in this planet.

Sophie (01:17.491)

Yeah.

Sophie (01:24.839)

Yeah.

Sophie (01:34.012)

Yeah.

Sophie (01:38.591)

Mm, 100%.

Sabin (01:40.746)

or people who are gone, you know? So this affects every single person. So what is wellness? In its broad definition, in today's world, wellness is considered spa treatments. In my definition, wellness is making sure that you have good quality of life. In Ayurveda's definition,

Sophie (01:44.413)

Yeah.

Sabin (02:10.314)

and I don't claim to be an Ayurvedic or specialist in there. But when I read all the books, one of the big things that they all start with, and this is a summary, is saying that wellness is a lifestyle you build so that in your most difficult time, you can fall back on it and fall back on the intuitive side of wellness. And so what I like to work with in terms in my professional career with my clients

is to work with you to make it so intuitive that you fall back on that. And there's some Ayurvedic historic teaching there, but I don't follow Ayurveda as my coaching principles.

Sophie (02:53.223)

Yeah, fair enough. I love that because it's so true. Because it's, yeah, if you can actually build that throughout your life, this is something you can always rely on. Well, rely on as much as possible. Yeah. Yeah, but I love that. I really want a t-shirt that says, wellness is not a spa. I mean, don't get me wrong, a spa's lovely. It's great to get pamphlets, it's wonderful, but like.

Sabin (03:02.934)

Yeah, it's like you wake up, you brush your teeth, so you keep your teeth healthy.

Sophie (03:20.307)

going to the spa is not gonna make you well, a well person unfortunately. And you're so right, a lot of people.

Sabin (03:24.65)

You know, Sophia, I'm just gonna throw something off topic completely. I need to make millions of t-shirts. One says chai is not chai. It's chai. It's not chai latte, you know, and, uh, so I'm gonna, we need to make this. Wellness is not a spa. I think I need to educate people through my t-shirts. It's coming.

Sophie (03:40.649)

Yes.

Kokorology t-shirts. I want it, I wanna buy that. And I love chai, by the way. I love chai latte. And I didn't know it was just chai, because it's true. It probably, it's just chai, isn't it? It's not chai latte.

Sabin (03:49.934)

coming to you soon.

Sabin (03:58.169)

I mean, culturally, chai means it. I mean, we're getting so off topic, but culturally, chai literally means tea. But I mean, literally, it means tea, but culturally, it means milk tea.

Sophie (04:07.042)

I didn't even.

Sophie (04:10.935)

Okay, okay, we see? There we go. I just learned something new today. And I'm sure so did our audience.

Sabin (04:16.786)

And we're so off topic already, I love it. This is exactly how Sophie and I are, always. Ha ha ha.

Sophie (04:23.575)

Yeah, sorry. Well, sorry, not sorry, guys. This is why like these podcasts are as much as trying to just to, you know, share knowledge and share information, but also have fun. You know, just laugh and be silly sometimes. One point actually, which is really interesting, and we'll have to try and keep this short, because it's quite a big topic, but like within the wellness, within the remit of wellness, predisposed health issues.

Sabin (04:33.398)

Yeah. Ha ha ha.

Always.

Sophie (04:53.456)

that people experience in their families and stuff. Like, how can people deal with stuff that they might have inherited in a wellness concept?

Sabin (04:57.646)

So.

Sabin (05:03.718)

Yeah, absolutely. And I think this is such a broad topic and it really requires a lot of health practitioners to join into this topic. But just to kind of give you an example of what we are talking about and then see how as wellness seekers and professionals we can kind of mitigate this risk, right? So, well, many brown people of South Asian descent

Sophie (05:11.743)

I mean, yeah.

Sophie (05:24.102)

Thank you.

Sabin (05:29.57)

have, and this is just one example of the thousand that I can think of, have smaller arteries in their heart, which means that they're predisposed to having heart attack much faster and younger, right? I mean, that's just genes, right? However, some people are predisposed to having cancer because that's just what they inherited. Now, lifestyle plays a big part in it too.

Sophie (05:41.467)

Okay. Yeah.

Yeah.

Sophie (05:54.687)

Thanks for watching!

Sabin (05:57.85)

And some people are predisposed to cholesterol. So non-communicable diseases is what a lot of people are predisposed to, and which is where genetic testing and making sure your health and your blood work and regular yearly doctor visits for a full medical checkup. Insurance or not insurance, please just do it guys. Because the kind of stuff that I have seen people pick up on and fix before it becomes catastrophic is...

Sophie (06:12.711)

Yeah.

Sophie (06:17.513)

Yeah.

Sabin (06:26.314)

Like it blows my mind, it opened my eyes so many years ago. So please, please do that. But how do we mitigate this other than this, other than the fact that now we have to get ourselves tested and see what we're predisposed to? The other thing, and this is something that my dad probably put into my brain because he lives this lifestyle. He's like, well, I am predisposed to diabetes. I would have, and he's a diabetic person.

Sophie (06:29.993)

Yeah.

Sophie (06:40.415)

Mmm.

Sabin (06:54.314)

He's been on diabetic medication since decades now. He's like, I would have gotten onto my diabetic medication much later in life if I had known to take care of myself a certain way. And what does that mean? It means nutrition, it means movement, it means lala. He has maintained his diabetic level and not gotten the levels up or increased medication and stuff like this for decades.

Sophie (07:07.728)

Yeah.

Sophie (07:21.6)

That would usually be expected, right? I'm assuming people use their diaget.

Sabin (07:23.454)

Yeah. So his doctor says that he doesn't need to revamp, with diabetics, you need to keep revamping medication. But his doctor says that because he's managed himself through regular exercise through regular, what he eats, how he fills out, he's managed his health to stay this way, right? Rather than go. And so there's, there's so much wisdom to unpack that, right?

Sophie (07:30.6)

Yeah.

Sophie (07:45.688)

And yeah.

Sabin (07:51.434)

as someone who is his daughter, and now I know I am predisposed to diabetes. So then what do I do? I maintain a healthier lifestyle so that I will not bring it upon myself earlier than it needs to come. Right? Now non-communicable diseases will settle in as we age. They don't have to, but they may settle in as we age, and that is what we can with wellness and quality of life.

Sophie (08:08.251)

Yeah, exactly.

Sophie (08:17.599)

Yeah.

Sabin (08:20.982)

we can increase the timeline to when we are actually, when we have to deal with it. And that's where wellness comes in, it's to maintain that quality of life.

Sophie (08:27.934)

Yeah.

Sophie (08:32.527)

I love it. Well, actually I want another t-shirt that says wellness is lifestyle. Like wellness is not a trend, it's a lifestyle. Because it's true, like wellness goes into every life. Like it's, yeah, I mean, I've got to, I didn't say this in the podcast we did last time, talking about toxicities in the fashion. Like I wish people would stop killing themselves in the gym before they get married. Like...

Sabin (08:41.724)

Yeah!

Sophie (09:00.435)

completely starving themselves, killing themselves in the gym for three months before they get married, spit into the beautiful dress, look like a Barbie doll, and then everything goes back to normal afterwards, and then all the way.

Sabin (09:12.37)

And these are the same people who will look back at their wedding pictures for years and years and wish that they were they look like that again. And wow, guys, just enjoy where you are today. Like, you know.

Sophie (09:21.927)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just.

Sophie (09:28.039)

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. But yeah, we'll unpack this in many, like in other podcasts. We'll talk more about wellness, but it's just, it's so good to have this reminder that wellness really is from the moment we're conceived until the moment we die. It's not, it's part of our routine. It's taking care of us.

Sabin (09:43.821)

Yeah.

Sabin (09:47.914)

It's us. It is us. You eat, right? It's wellness. You move, right? It's wellness. You get sick, right? It's all wellness. Point is, how do you increase that quality of life? And my favorite statement, how do you regulate your nervous system? And some people are predisposed to mental health issues as well, like anxiety and depression. So how do you mitigate that so that if you know you're predisposed to it, then...

Sophie (09:51.655)

Yeah.

Sophie (09:56.807)

Bye. Mm-hmm.

Sophie (10:06.023)

Yes, so true.

Sophie (10:10.491)

Yeah, that's so true.

Sophie (10:17.255)

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Sabin (10:18.03)

not seek help earlier then actually feel the symptoms and then seek help because that is a little

Sophie (10:23.931)

Yeah, yeah, so true. It's never too late. It's better to start today than to not start at all. But of course, the earlier you can start, the better. Yeah, that's amazing. Thank you for sharing, for sharing that.

Sabin (10:27.254)

but it's never too late.

Sabin (10:32.769)

Yeah.

Sabin (10:37.666)

Yeah, it's a heavy topic and I know we've just scratched the surface. I think people will be like, oh, again, these girls, just scratching the surface. But but I really think there was some good insights out of those.

Sophie (10:45.681)

Yes.

Sophie (10:51.847)

Yeah, they really were. They really were. And we'll unpack this more. Like it's going to, we'll have many more podcasts, um, unpacking the world of wellness, but just, this was just a quick, a quick one. Well, thank you for joining in and thank you for sharing. Thank you for sharing your knowledge again.

Sabin (11:01.79)

Yeah. Thank you so much. Yeah.

Thanks for being my partner in crime, Sophie.

Sophie (11:11.643)

I really loved these sessions with you. And thank you very much for tuning in with us. This is it from the Kokorology podcast today. And guys, if you have anything you'd like us to talk about, please leave your comments and we'll try and cover as much as possible what you'd like to hear about.

Sabin (11:26.494)

Yeah, we'll share the links everywhere.

Sophie (11:28.699)

Yeah, exactly. Mwah. Bye.

Sabin (11:33.135)

Bye.